Curse

Malice Black · Jan 03, 2008, 09:54 PM // 21:54

Only hard thing about GW is staying awake.

Splitisoda · Jan 03, 2008, 10:10 PM // 22:10

I dont even wanna KNOW what the heck are the HM atribs, i see like instant kills with sandstorm bosses, heck ive been hit for over 1000+ once before. Dont even wanna know what the heck that skill was

The only reason i like hard mode is for the easier GRIND ENGINE GRIND ENGINE GRIND ENGINE GOing for titles.

Master Knightfall · Jan 03, 2008, 10:19 PM // 22:19

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Originally Posted by Whiskeyjack

If it wasn't for hard mode i wouldn' bother with PvE at all anymore, tbh i find it hard to understand how people can enjoy NM.

Right on same for me as well. Hard Mode is now the money making mode in this game. I can make 10k - 15k in a run and it doesn't even feel like farming because it's not going to point A and killing npc B over n over. These are whole zones I can do and get huge rewards. Always get a couple of gold items and/or lockpicks plus other goodies.

AshenX · Jan 20, 2008, 10:15 AM // 10:15

Before I tried to lift the heavy thing it was too heavy for me so I kept trying until I could lift the heavy thing and now the things I lifted before I lifted the heavy thing are too light for me to feel like I am lifting anything at all what am i going to do now that the heavy thing is not heavy anymore is there a heavier thing?

Posted on too little sleep

Steboy93 · Jan 20, 2008, 10:16 AM // 10:16

Hard mode is a great challenge and a clever addition to the game which has kept many people playing who were going to quit.

Esan · Jan 20, 2008, 10:33 AM // 10:33

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Originally Posted by AshenX

Before I tried to lift the heavy thing it was too heavy for me so I kept trying until I could lift the heavy thing and now the things I lifted before I lifted the heavy thing are too light for me to feel like I am lifting anything at all what am i going to do now that the heavy thing is not heavy anymore is there a heavier thing?

So what you're saying is... that we need a NIGHTMARE MODE because hard mode is becomming easier every day?

I agree!

pumpkin pie · Jan 20, 2008, 10:48 AM // 10:48

HM lonar pass is easier then the NM in my opinion because i get extra 2 level 20s hench compare to the level 10 which can't even get through the first mob. i managed to hench half way in HM but then I die. then all the H/H dies, anyway, going back to do it again H/H

crazybanshee · Jan 20, 2008, 02:40 PM // 14:40

Yeah I'm glad I went and got all the hm titles, I think it made me a better player and made me better micromanaging my heroes and builds. That being said, I'll never do it again unless I'm helping out a guildie. Most of mine was done with heroes and henches, and occasionally another person on the hardest missions. When I did all the HM (pre eotn) There were no consumables, no ursan, and I basically ended up doing some areas or missions many many times before getting it. Not that the henchmen complained, but I was getting a little annoyed. Even after gwen I didn't use ursan (had no idea what it could actually do) and was usually too poor to make consumables. Now that I'm all done, I'm doing elite areas in nm (mallyx runs and so on) and I find myself the richest I"ve ever been. I'm retaining lockpicks, making money, and I can usually drink while playing to work on that boring grind title

Kusandaa · Jan 20, 2008, 04:05 PM // 16:05

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Originally Posted by Esan

So what you're saying is... that we need a NIGHTMARE MODE because hard mode is becomming easier every day?

I agree!

I could go for a nightmare mode - my only bane in HM remains huge mobs fire imps, rest is relatively easy (and I'm vanquishing without Ursan). Yeah, getting easy... but I still enjoy it anyways. If I'm getting cash out of it as well as general experience, I'm a happy man.

Nightmare mode should change your foes builds and attributes everytime you enter a new map - give them actual builds with kiting AI and such, but please, give it to heroes as well >_>. Give foes each 3-4 builds to run with same main attribute... that kinda stuff I guess.

Just my 2g really x].

You can't see me · Jan 20, 2008, 06:14 PM // 18:14

What do I think of Hard Mode?

It's a higher level of gameplay, and is very enjoyable for those who are good enough to play it without much difficulty, which excludes PuGs of course, but I don't think I speak for only myself when I say that Hard Mode was a welcome change. If you don't like Hard Mode, and don't think the reward is worth the effort you put into it, then you're probably at a skill level where you should probably still be doing normal mode. Hard Mode just doesn't require the effort that it would be impossible if you know what you're doing. However, as for the extra time with the extra reward, I'm all for that. It made farming and grinding a lot less painful.

My 2 cents.

Operative 14 · Jan 20, 2008, 06:23 PM // 18:23

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Originally Posted by blue.rellik

What difference would it make? The majority of PvE players would still get rolled thorugh except Ursan users and the players that can make a decent/good team still get through. This would just lead to more threads like this, people whining because they can't do something while good players saying you should stop using firestorm which will eventually turn into a arguement of bad players talking about 'not having enough time' while throwing the word 'elitism' in there.

If they gave the enemies good bars then really, it would be the same as fighting HM EotN Stone Summit and Charr over and over again. And imagine the whining then

'omg the char firestorm uses aegis which makes my derv and war useless. the rangers also kill my casters so easily. nerf plz'

You know you're ah... doing exactly what you're complaining about, except in reverse?

Anyhoo-

I tried Hardmode, and I didn't see much point. I'm not really one for going for titles, nor trying to get good loot, so all that leaves me with is fighting harder enemies for no reason. So I took one foray into it, when it first came out, and then never tried again.

doudou_steve · Jan 20, 2008, 08:23 PM // 20:23

I hate when people complains about it. *Hard mode is soo easy, im an elite yeaaa* oh comon, hard mode just says its harder then normal mode, to add more challenge etc... But people want now an IMPOSSIBLE NIGHTMARE MODE and even after(if they put it) peeps will still complain *ahhhh its too hard* or *ahhhhhhh it's too easy, plz put a realist mode where you die in 1 hit like in real life!*

You get the point? Live with it and stop whining, you won't change something

flclempire · Jan 20, 2008, 08:43 PM // 20:43

HM sucks. Its only a cakewalk with the 2 or 3 generic party builds and thats~no good. Splinter/barrage+ele nukage groups make me sick. How about making the game balanced so mesmers are as useful as eles or rangers?

Crom The Pale · Jan 20, 2008, 11:12 PM // 23:12

Hard mode has its good and bad points.

Some missions are just way to frustrating with massive mob agro and over powered attacks/defences.

Some are way to easy as the AI is still slow witted and makes exploitable mistakes every time leading to a single most efficient method of completing most missions in Hard Mode.

Drops are just not what they should be, why does a lvl 30 monster drop a non max white item? Or a lvl 26 Boss drop a 3g collectors item?

Quallity over quantity is what we always wanted but seam to never get.

bhavv · Jan 21, 2008, 02:21 AM // 02:21

The only reason I do HM is for the titles and am making terrislow progress. I vanquish 2 areas, I get bored. I manage fine, but they may as well allow 7 heroes for HM to make it more fun. And no one pugs in HM anyway.

Kerwyn Nasilan · Jan 21, 2008, 02:25 AM // 02:25

HM is nice for a challange and farming. With Ursan and Consumables make it just a breeze.

Esan · Jan 21, 2008, 02:29 AM // 02:29

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Originally Posted by bhavv

And no one pugs in HM anyway.

Yes, but you can find vanquishing partners always in behemothian alliances like [XoO], [SNOW], etc. Which means that HM title addicts who can't or don't want to do it alone should be joining one of these lumbering amorphous mega alliances.

bhavv · Jan 21, 2008, 05:08 AM // 05:08

Shhhh!!! I'm in snow alliance and got legendary guardian with the helpful peeps, but I wanna vanquish everything solo just as a personal choice.

Also, alliance group =\= pug.

I just cant commit to grinding the same thing over and over again like vanquishing. I do 2 or 3 and im bored.

StormDragonZ · Jan 21, 2008, 05:28 AM // 05:28

Honestly, I don't like Hard Mode. Too many people do Hard Mode, and hardly anyone does Normal Mode.

Bryant Again · Jan 21, 2008, 05:28 AM // 05:28

Even if my earlier post is a little dated, I would just like to add that it was a good addition to the game.